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Lora Qlora Recipes

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Configure LoRA and QLoRA supervised fine-tuning with current best-practice hyperparameters. Use when writing or reviewing a LoRA/QLoRA training configuration, choosing rank/alpha/target modules, or deciding between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning.
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This skill provides a standardized configuration recipe for LoRA and QLoRA supervised fine-tuning. It focuses on defining adapter parameters such as rank, alpha, and target modules, while providing guidance on when to use LoRA versus QLoRA. The skill assumes the use of Unsloth as the reference implementation and provides mappings for plain TRL and PEFT equivalents, ensuring configurations are consistent with current best practices for adapter training.

What it does

  • Defines target modules for LoRA/QLoRA adapters including all-linear layers.
  • Provides formulas for calculating lora_alpha based on rank.
  • Suggests learning rate starting points for LoRA and QLoRA methods.
  • Maps Unsloth configuration parameters to their TRL and PEFT equivalents.
  • Offers guidance on selecting between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning.
  • Identifies common configuration failure modes like fp16 divergence and improper rank selection.

When to use it

  • When configuring LoRA or QLoRA adapters for supervised fine-tuning.
  • When reviewing training configurations for adapter-based model tuning.
  • When deciding between LoRA, QLoRA, or full fine-tuning for a specific task.
  • When troubleshooting training issues that stem from configuration choices.
  • When porting Unsloth configurations to plain TRL or PEFT.

Advantages

  • Standardizes adapter configuration using established conventions.
  • Reduces trial-and-error by providing task-specific rank and learning rate starting points.
  • Clarifies the relationship between Unsloth, TRL, and PEFT APIs.
  • Helps prevent common configuration-related training failures.

Usage examples

“What are the recommended target modules for a LoRA adapter?”
The skill recommends targeting all-linear modules, specifically: q_proj, k_proj, v_proj, o_proj, gate_proj, up_proj, and down_proj.
“How should I set lora_alpha relative to rank?”
The settled convention is to set lora_alpha = 2 * r, deriving it from the rank rather than tuning it independently.
“What is the standard learning rate for QLoRA?”
The standard starting point for QLoRA supervised fine-tuning is 2e-4.
“How do I map Unsloth's use_gradient_checkpointing to TRL?”
Unsloth's use_gradient_checkpointing='unsloth' maps to gradient_checkpointing=True in TRL's SFTConfig or TrainingArguments.

Install

  1. Download the skill as a ZIP:

    https://autogineer.com/agent-skills/wshobson/lora-qlora-recipes/download
  2. Unzip it into the cross-client skills folder of your project:

    mkdir -p .agents/skills && unzip lora-qlora-recipes.zip -d .agents/skills

Documentation by Seth Hobson

LoRA & QLoRA Recipes

This skill assumes the routing decision already happened — finetuning-method-selection should have already pointed here because the data shape is demonstrations (SFT), not preference pairs or a verifiable reward signal. What follows is the current best-practice recipe for configuring the adapter itself: which modules to target, how to size rank and alpha, what learning rate to use, and when QLoRA buys real headroom versus when it just adds risk. Dataset preparation and quality checks are a separate concern — see dataset-curation.

Input: a routing decision (SFT via LoRA/ QLoRA) plus a target size class. Output format: a validated adapter config — the kwarg values below, not free-form advice — that llm-finetuning-training-engineer consumes directly when it generates a runnable script.

The Reference Recipe

The reference recipe is "LoRA Without Regret" (Thinking Machines/Schulman, 2025-09), now the settled convention for LoRA/QLoRA SFT.

Target Modules

Target all-linear modules, not just attention:

target_modules = [
    "q_proj", "k_proj", "v_proj", "o_proj",   # attention
    "gate_proj", "up_proj", "down_proj",      # MLP — matters most
]

The MLP layers (gate_proj, up_proj, down_proj) matter most — attention-only targeting was the older, weaker convention. Dropping modules to save memory is a Failure Mode below, not a valid optimization.

Alpha and Learning Rate
  • lora_alpha = 2 * r is the settled convention (NeurIPS 2025 "intruder dimensions" result). Don't hand-tune alpha independently of rank — derive it from rank every time.

  • LoRA learning rate ≈ 10x the equivalent full-fine-tune LR. For QLoRA specifically, 2e-4 is the standard starting point. Full hyperparameter tables and worked examples: references/hyperparameters.md.

Rank by Task

Rank is task-shaped, not a single global default:

TaskRank
RL (GRPO/RLVR adapters)1–32
General default16–32
SFT at scaleup to ~256

Higher rank isn't automatically better — it raises capacity to memorize as fast as it raises capacity to generalize. Start at the row matching the task, and only move up a row if the lower rank measurably underfits on held-out eval, not as a default hedge.

Effective Batch Size

Keep effective batch size under 32. This recipe was validated at that scale — pushing effective batch higher is an untested extrapolation, not a free throughput win.

Unsloth Defaults

Unsloth is the reference implementation this plugin assumes as the default fast path — except for messages-shaped conversational SFT with assistant_only_loss=True, where Unsloth 2026.7.x's compiled trainer has no messages-shaped path at all and the plain-TRL escape hatch (references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md) is the default for that combination, not a rare-regression fallback. Its out-of-the-box defaults, and why each one is set that way:

  • lora_dropout=0 — the optimized kernel path assumes zero dropout; setting a nonzero value forfeits the fused-kernel speedup.

  • bias="none" — bias terms add adapter parameters for negligible quality gain at this rank range.

  • use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth" — Unsloth's checkpointing variant, not vanilla HF checkpointing; saves roughly 30% VRAM over no checkpointing.

  • optim="adamw_8bit" — 8-bit AdamW cuts optimizer-state memory with negligible quality impact at LoRA/QLoRA adapter scale.

  • random_state fixed — pins LoRA initialization for reproducibility across runs; treat it like any other seed, not a tunable.

These show up together on the get_peft_model call:

model = FastLanguageModel.get_peft_model(
    model,
    r=32,
    target_modules=target_modules,
    lora_alpha=64,               # 2 * r
    lora_dropout=0,
    bias="none",
    use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth",
    random_state=3407,
)

Exact kwarg names and their plain-TRL/PEFT equivalents, plus a full worked config including SFTConfig: references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md and references/hyperparameters.md.

LoRA vs QLoRA vs Full FT

SituationDefault choice
Adapting behavior on demonstrationsLoRA
Base model doesn't fit in bf16 at target rankQLoRA
Injecting dense new domain knowledgeFull FT (see finetuning-method-selection)
Unsure which oneLoRA — upgrade to QLoRA only if memory forces it
  • QLoRA = NF4-quantized frozen base weights + BF16 adapters. This is what makes a 65B-class model trainable on 48GB — the quantized base is the memory win, not the adapter itself.

  • Full fine-tuning is not a default. Reserve it for dense knowledge injection where the goal is changing what the model knows at the weight level, not adapting a behavior. For everything else in this skill's scope, LoRA or QLoRA is the starting assumption.

  • On DGX Spark, QLoRA can OOM before an equivalent bf16 LoRA run would, even though QLoRA's steady-state footprint is smaller — bitsandbytes dequantization buffers are transient CUDA-side allocations that spike during load. A QLoRA OOM is not proof the model doesn't fit; the dgx-spark-ops plugin's spark-memory-thermal-ops skill covers the full OOM remediation ladder (bf16 LoRA is the next thing to try, not a further QLoRA shrink).

Failure Modes

  • fp16 divergence on non-BF16 GPUs. Training in fp16 on hardware that doesn't have solid BF16 support is a known source of loss spikes and silent divergence. Force bf16=True wherever the hardware supports it; don't fall back to fp16 as if it were equivalent. Check hardware support before picking a dtype:

    python -c "import torch; print(torch.cuda.is_bf16_supported())"
  • Rank too high on a small dataset overfits. A rank picked for "SFT at scale" (up to ~256) on a dataset that doesn't have scale behind it memorizes rather than generalizes. Match rank to the Rank by Task table above, not to the largest number available.

  • Removing target modules to save memory costs quality for negligible savings. The adapter parameters on gate_proj/up_proj/down_proj are a small fraction of total model size — cutting them barely moves memory but measurably hurts quality. If memory is tight, move to QLoRA or reduce rank/batch/pack length before trimming target modules.

All three failure modes share a pattern: they look like a training-loop bug (loss spikes, plateaus, memorization) but are actually a config choice that contradicts the reference recipe above. Check configuration against this skill before debugging the training loop itself.

References

  • references/hyperparameters.md — full rank/ alpha/LR tables by task type, rsLoRA notes, batch/packing interactions, and a complete worked Unsloth config block.

  • references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md — every Unsloth kwarg mapped to its TRL/PEFT equivalent, current TRL API notes, and the escape-hatch rule for when to drop back to plain TRL.

Related skills: finetuning-method-selection routes here; dataset-curation covers the data side this skill doesn't; llm-finetuning-training-engineer is the downstream consumer of the config this skill produces.

Files

references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md

Last verified: 2026-07-14

Unsloth ↔ TRL/PEFT Mapping

Unsloth is a fast-kernel wrapper over PEFT and TRL, not a replacement API — every Unsloth kwarg below has a plain TRL/PEFT equivalent. Use this table to translate an Unsloth config to plain TRL (or back), and to know which knob lives on which object in the current TRL API.

Config Knob Mapping

Unsloth kwargTRL/PEFT equivalentNotes
FastLanguageModel.from_pretrained(model_name=...)AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(...) + AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained(...)Unsloth fuses model+tokenizer load with kernel patching in one call.
load_in_4bit=TrueBitsAndBytesConfig(load_in_4bit=True, bnb_4bit_quant_type="nf4", bnb_4bit_compute_dtype=torch.bfloat16) passed to from_pretrainedThis is the QLoRA path in both.
FastLanguageModel.get_peft_model(r=..., target_modules=..., lora_alpha=..., lora_dropout=..., bias=..., random_state=...)peft.LoraConfig(r=..., target_modules=..., lora_alpha=..., lora_dropout=..., bias=...) + peft.get_peft_model(model, config); random_state → seed set before get_peft_modelUnsloth's call is a thin wrapper generating the same LoraConfig under the hood.
use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth"gradient_checkpointing=True in SFTConfig/TrainingArgumentsUnsloth's variant is a faster/lower-memory implementation of the same idea — not a different feature. Plain TRL's gradient_checkpointing=True is the correct fallback, just with less VRAM savings (~30% less benefit).
optim="adamw_8bit"SFTConfig(optim="adamw_8bit")Identical string, same bitsandbytes optimizer — no translation needed.
use_rslora=True/FalseLoraConfig(use_rslora=True/False)Same flag name in PEFT directly.
max_seq_length (passed to FastLanguageModel.from_pretrained)SFTConfig(max_length=...)Current TRL: the field is max_length on SFTConfig (renamed from max_seq_length), not on the trainer call or from_pretrained in plain TRL.
dataset_text_field (Unsloth examples often set this on the trainer)SFTConfig(dataset_text_field=...)Current TRL: lives on SFTConfig, same as max_seq_length.
random_state=3407 (data/adapter-init seed)SFTConfig(seed=3407) for trainer-level seedingSet both — Unsloth's random_state seeds LoRA init specifically; SFTConfig.seed seeds the trainer's own RNG use.

Current TRL API Notes

Two API surfaces changed recently enough that stale examples (including some Unsloth cookbook snippets) still show the old form:

  • processing_class, not tokenizer=. SFTTrainer(tokenizer=tokenizer, ...) is the old, removed-or-deprecated form. Current TRL takes SFTTrainer(processing_class=tokenizer, ...). If a config or example still passes tokenizer=, update it before running — this is the single most common stale-API error when porting an older recipe forward.

  • max_length (renamed from max_seq_length) and dataset_text_field live in SFTConfig, not scattered across the trainer call or the model loader. Set them once, on the SFTConfig instance, and don't duplicate them elsewhere in the pipeline.

Known Unsloth 2026.7.x Limitations

Four confirmed gaps on Unsloth 2026.7.2 (transformers 5.13.1, trl 1.8.0), found while training a real messages-shaped SFT run. None of these are hypothetical — each was reproduced with a live load/train and, where noted, a working fix.

No messages-shaped path with assistant_only_loss=True

Unsloth's compiled SFTTrainer (monkeypatched onto trl.SFTTrainer process-wide the moment unsloth is imported anywhere — not reversible within the process, and not gated on FastLanguageModel actually being used) ships a hand-written _prepare_dataset that recognizes exactly four dataset shapes by column name: pre-tokenized (input_ids/labels), prompt+ completion, a flat dataset_text_field, or a formatting_func returning pre-rendered strings. There is no messages-shaped conversational-dataset path at all. A formatting_func can only return flat text, which forces pre-rendering the chat template before the trainer sees per-turn boundaries — the exact flat-text anti-pattern dataset-curation's references/formats-and-templates.md warns computes loss over the entire sequence, defeating assistant_only_loss's purpose. Fix: use the plain TRL + PEFT escape hatch below — this is not a rare point-release regression to wait out, it is the current state of Unsloth 2026.7.x for this exact combination (messages dataset + assistant_only_loss=True + no packing). Confirmed via two independent runs: Unsloth's path raises immediately at trainer construction; identical hyperparameters run cleanly end-to-end once unsloth is never imported and plain transformers.AutoModelForCausalLM + peft.LoraConfig/get_peft_model + trl.SFTTrainer are used instead.

attn_implementation kwarg silently dropped

FastLanguageModel.from_pretrained(..., attn_implementation="sdpa") does not reliably force SDPA. Unsloth's loader calls its own attention-resolution helper without forwarding the caller's attn_implementation, then discards the kwarg outright — so a flash-attn build that's importable gets auto-selected regardless of what was requested. Confirmed: passing attn_implementation="sdpa" explicitly still resolved to model.config._attn_implementation == "flash_attention_2". The only working override is a monkeypatch before calling from_pretrained — scope it tightly, since HAS_FLASH_ATTENTION is a module-global that also affects any other from_pretrained call made later in the same process (a second model load in the same script or notebook cell inherits whatever the flag was last set to, silently):

import unsloth.models._utils as unsloth_utils

_original = unsloth_utils.HAS_FLASH_ATTENTION
try:
    unsloth_utils.HAS_FLASH_ATTENTION = False
    model, tokenizer = FastLanguageModel.from_pretrained(...)
    assert model.config._attn_implementation == "sdpa", (
        f"expected sdpa, got {model.config._attn_implementation}"
    )
finally:
    unsloth_utils.HAS_FLASH_ATTENTION = _original

This forces the resolver down its SDPA branch for the duration of the try block only, restores the prior value in finally even if from_pretrained raises, and asserts the resolver actually landed on SDPA rather than silently falling through. On plain TRL/PEFT (the escape hatch above), attn_implementation="sdpa" passed to AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained is honored correctly — this is an Unsloth-specific gap, not a general TRL issue.

padding_free collision with a plain-TRL SFTConfig

Passing a plain trl.SFTConfig(max_length=1024, packing=False, ...) (i.e., not touching padding_free, matching TRL's own documented default of padding_free=False) into Unsloth's compiled trainer can still raise ValueError: When padding_free=True without packing, max_length is not enforced.... Unsloth's own compiled SFTConfig-equivalent dataclass defaults padding_free = None, and something in its resolution path turns that into a truthy value even for an args instance built from plain trl.SFTConfig. Fix: pass padding_free=False explicitly whenever training through Unsloth — cheap insurance regardless of which path you're on.

TRL's chat-template auto-patch is exact-string-match only

Before raising the "template lacks {% generation %}" error described in dataset-curation SKILL.md, TRL 1.8.0's SFTTrainer.__init__ calls an internal get_training_chat_template() that tries to swap in one of ~18 hardcoded known-model training templates (trl.chat_template_utils) keyed on exact string equality against the tokenizer's chat_template. If the model's shipped template doesn't literal-match a table entry — even a near-identical one — the auto-patch silently fails to apply and TRL raises. Fix pattern: hand-patch a copy of the tokenizer's actual template by wrapping the assistant-turn content span with {% generation %}... {% endgeneration %} markers — role marker outside the span, the end-of-turn token inside it (matching TRL's is_chat_template_stop_token_trained check) — preserving every branch of the real template (tool-calling, per-turn special-case handling) that a generic fallback constant won't have. Load the patched template into tokenizer.chat_template in memory only; never overwrite the base model directory's shipped template file.

The Escape Hatch: When to Drop Back to Plain TRL

For messages-shaped SFT with assistant_only_loss=True, this is the default path per the Known Limitations section above, not a fallback of last resort. For every other training mode, Unsloth ships fast point releases and a point release occasionally regresses a specific mode (a collator, a chunked-loss path, a particular model architecture) before the next patch fixes it. Either way:

  1. Reproduce narrowly — confirm it's the Unsloth wrapper and not the underlying config (rank, alpha, LR, target modules all still apply unchanged).

  2. Fall back to plain TRL + PEFT directly, using the mapping table above to translate every Unsloth kwarg to its TRL/PEFT equivalent. The hyperparameters don't change — only which library sets them.

  3. Re-pin Unsloth once a patch lands for modes covered by a genuine regression rather than a structural gap — check the Known Limitations section above first; a structural gap (like the messages-shaped path) doesn't resolve itself on the next point release without a changelog entry confirming it.

This is why the mapping table exists: it makes the fallback mechanical instead of a from-scratch rewrite.

Requirements and compatibility

Works with: Claude Code, Claude apps, OpenAI Codex, GitHub Copilot, Cursor, Gemini CLI, Kiro, OpenCode, Goose, Amp, Roo Code, JetBrains Junie, Factory Droid, Devin (ex-Windsurf), Mistral Vibe, OpenHands, Letta

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